originally posted in:Secrets of Destiny
The Traveler weighs approximately [b]185,333 times more than the Earth.
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I have some questions for you guys at the bottom of the post that relate to my assumptions and calculations, I want input from other passionate lore fans:
[b]Data, assumptions, volume calculations:[/b]
[spoiler]Measuring conservatively by using a ruler on my monitor to compare the traveler and a skyscraper, I got results that said the Traveler is approximately 22 times taller than the tallest tower in the center of The City.
Assuming the towers are similar to current human skyscrapers, I am giving them a height of 1,000 meters.
The traveler is roughly 22,000 meters tall.
I assume the outermost two layers [url=https://guardianrecon.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/traveler-close-up.jpg](the gray and the white plating[/url]) to be in total 1km thick.
Using a radius of 11,000 meters, I calculated the volume of the entire Traveler
V = 5.58×10^12 Cubic Meters
Subtracting the volume of a sphere with a radius of 10km from the volume of the Traveler in order to find the volume of the mantle
5.58×10^12m^3 - 4.19×10^12m^3
= 1.39^12m^3
That’s 1,390,000,000,000m^3
One trillion 390 billion cubic meters. [/spoiler]
[b]The materials listed by the Grimoire:[/b]
[spoiler]“Ghost Fragment: The Traveler
Dreams of Alpha Lupi
You have lived as invisibly as possible, flicking from solar system to solar system, making grand plans, overseeing the culturing of civilizations, before leaving in a blink. But you have no recollection of ever wanting worship or even thanks from those blessed by you.
But memory is heavy now.
It feels like lead and neutronium and electroweak matter fashioned into a moon-sized ball that you must carry as you move.
Now, your flight is rapid, your vast mind infected with such dread and toxic doubt that you find yourself afraid of the simple act of thought.
And it is your children you must turn to now, in time of need.”[/spoiler]
[b]Final calculations:[/b]
[spoiler]
Three materials are listed, Lead, Neutronium, and Electroweak Material. I’m paying close attention to the mention of Neutronium, as it would be the best choice for outer armor plating on the Traveler.
Neutronium is a superdense material thought to be at the center of neutron stars.
It has a density of 8×1017 kg/m^3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star
Multiplying the weight per meter cubed of Neutronium by the volume of the Traveler’s mantle:
8×10^17kg/m^3 * 1.39^12m^3
= 1.112x10^30 kg
The Earth itself only weighs 6x10^24kg.[/spoiler]
To sum up, if the traveler’s outermost 1 kilometer of shell is made from neutronium, then it is [b]roughly 185,333 times more [i]massive* [/i]than the Earth. [/b]
*Thanks to Jarod for helping me realize I was being a bit to casual in my terminology, lol.
[u]Important questions that I have for you guys:[/u]
[b]Are my calculations sound?[/b]
Just looking at the scars on the Traveler and knowing there is and clockwork-style internal structure is how I got my guess of a 1km thickness for the outer plating. [b]Do you guys have any better guesses or ways of figuring out the thickness?[/b] Please do not refer me to the early concept art of the Traveler as the design has changed a great deal since then.
“Electroweak Material” confuses me, I know some chemistry, not much in the way of physics lol. [b]Anyone here know what it might be?[/b] I was thinking some sort of magical graphene or silicon.
EDIT: Had some good comments left by fellow forums goers, apparently I don't need to worry about accounting for this stuff.
If someone who has a big flatscreen TV could get me a measurement of the tallest tower and a measurement of the traveler in centimeters, I would be happy to go back over and refine the calculations, TBH I got them using a ruler on my small-ish PC monitor that I have plugged into my One.
And guys, no one unplug the antigravity…
Special thanks to Charlemagne and Qwerty for fact checking me while I was making rough drafts of this.
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I'm sure the matter left after a supernova is a fcuking black hole
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OMG MATH !!!!!!
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To much genius to understand. Shutting down
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Wow, this has been around for a while
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"Likey".
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The ultimate nerd
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I'd guess that the speaker weighs more thou as he's clearly full of all the forum's salt
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[i]In a world where MasonJC360 finds a Destiny post to comment on...[/i] Dats too cray bruh
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Man, the Traveler is only filled with sex-crazed aliens. Ever seen 'Heavy Metal'? That giant sphere is nothing but a haven for pervy fiends.
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Chemistry wise: Electroweak metal would probably refer to any of the metals or metal alloys that are poor conductors. That being said, like all metals are very good conductors so that doesn't help lol Physics wise: No idea. Found something about quarks and more quantum theory along with the Big Bang related shit. No -blam!-ing idea what they mean haha.
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I thought it was going to say "It's the weight of your mom" but it was legit Lol
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I think MatPat would be happy to see this, why don't you go on his Twitter or whatever and show him?
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What kind of thing do you think scratched the traveler
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You must be talking about a different traveller cause Lebron only weighs something like 250
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……(\__/) ……( o_o) …./”"”"”"”"”"”"\======░ /”"”"”"”"”"”"”"""”\ \_@_@_@_@_@_/ Holy anti grav bunny tank how the earth not being thrown of orbit
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I'm just going to go with, yes. Good job, have a cookie.
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Stacys mom
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I got a 52" inc lcd. I'll get you whatever measure measurement you'd like. Let me know the scale you would like them in.
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Do we take into consideration the three elements; Arc, Solar and Void? Sure Arc is electricty and Solar is obviously hydrogen-helium fusion.....but what's Void? Dark matter? Dark energy? Just wondering if there's a connection somehwere involving the Traveler.
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If you read what i said about what Eletroweak matter is heres something further. Due to its nature its theorized thatit would directly effect the higgs field, possibly not generating any mass. So an object with roughly .01 percent would have zero mass and give off high amounts of electroweak energy. It would effectively not be effected by gravity at all which means it would technically not exist in space/time.
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SCIENCE
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Send this to game theory
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...yes.
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Hey I take ap chemistry in my school. Electroweaks exactly a form of matter like atoms and crap. Its really a force (in theory) consisted of electromagnetism and some kind of "weak forces" if I recall correctly (whatever that is). Basically you can kinda compare to gravity. Its a force we know exist but does not take up space or mass (meaning its not a form of matter). So if your weighing the traveler there's no need to input electroweaks into your equations.(since its not a form of matter I don't think that would even be possible!). As long as your work is consistent with what you are sure the traveler is made of (like lead) you should be fine. Also make sure you take the scratches on the traveler into account :)
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Hey I take ap chemistry in my school. Electroweaks exactly a form of matter like atoms and crap. Its really a force (in theory) consisted of electromagnetism and some kind of "weak forces" if I recall correctly (whatever that is). Basically you can kinda compare to gravity. Its a force we know exist but does not take up space or mass (meaning its not a form of matter). So if your weighing the traveler there's no need to input electroweaks into your equations.(since its not a form of matter I don't think that would even be possible!). As long as your work is consistent with what you are sure the traveler is made of (like lead) you should be fine. Also make sure you take the scratches on the traveler into account :)
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Given how mind-blowingly dense the Traveler is, wouldn't the City (and probably the entire solar system) just be a gravitational singularity at this point? Of course this brings up the question: what kind of space magic is the Traveler using that breaks every law in physics? Seriously, its entire mass would have to be devoted to a powerful anti-gravity generator.