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Edited by Ne0nK0ala:
6/15/2015 9:49:13 PM
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Its just on a cooldown now, how does it not work at all ahaha, if you have a problem with that cooldown then you are obviously pissed that you cant use it to your advantage now, and are more than likely a scrub, a ten second cool down is perfectly reasonable.
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I disagree. The cool down is unnecessary. They could have just fixed the perk so that it worked as described, rather than changing the way the perk works. Quintessence transfer was working perfectly, even with scatter (the warlock equivalent of swarm grenade). I guess Bungie is unaware of the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mindset. They seem to be more of the "If it's working fine, break it for no reason" mindset. Smh... Even with nothing manacles, you generally only get 1-2 kills, 3 max. With 2 grenades and 3 kills each (6 "extra super energy"), that's still not even close to a full super.
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Look at my video. It is broken and doesn't work
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Wait, broken in that each projectile from scatter returned energy? Or do you mean it is broken now after the patch in that it doesn't return super energy at all?
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Edited by Ne0nK0ala: 6/15/2015 11:23:27 PMI honestly dont see your problem lol, the only reason this is a problem is if you want to cheese the swarm and scatter grenade as theres no other grenade you can throw within 10 seconds unless you have gear, in which case you shouldnt be getting extra benefits anyway, as such you're just salty that they took away your cheating tactic.
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Edited by Blyndwolf: 6/15/2015 11:30:59 PMYou're silly. What a waste of a comment. Cheese the scatter grenade? That made you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't even broken for scatter. Next you'll be saying a max discipline build is broken too. Go play a different game if you don't want variety in builds. No other grenade you can throw two in 10 seconds? Every Sunsinger grenade can be thrown 2 within 10 seconds with gift of the sun. Get educated before you speak.
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Edited by Ne0nK0ala: 6/15/2015 11:40:52 PMFirst off "get educated before you speak", lol that statement though... Next up there must be a reason they did it for scatter grenades too, as such one can presume there is a possible cheese for that too. Then i shall add that i do not play sunslinger, or warlock anymore for that matter, however i do know you can throw two grenades, but can you get two kills as the cooldown only kicks off on kill, not hit. Its all about balance, in balance should you be getting half your super every 10 seconds? No you shouldnt, so its a good thing they stopped that too. At the end of the day the cooldown is fair, deal with it.
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What does the cool down have to do with being able to get kills. Do you even know what we are talking about? Of course you can get two kills. The new cool down doesn't stop you from getting kills for 10 seconds. It just stops the extra super energy from grenade kills. The only reason anyone (and by that I mean ONLY hunters and ONLY with swarm grenade) was getting half their super in 10 seconds is that the combo of ashes to assets and swarm grenade returned energy for each hit by a projectile rather than on kill. If Bungie had just made it so that it was only on kill, as it was with literally EVERY OTHER GRENADE, it would have been balanced.
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I think you should have read that properly lol, you obviously didnt. Secondly bungie obviously doesnt think so.
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Edited by Blyndwolf: 6/16/2015 1:43:09 AMHow was that to be properly read? Edit: I legitimately still have no idea what you meant, even after you smart-ass response.
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I don't know for sure but the way I read it the perk goes on cool down once grenade hits a target. So that means if you're using a swarm grenade once one part of the grenade hits, if it doesn't kill the target it won't work for the remaining grenade fragments. If that is how it works then the only grenade that the perk will work for all the time is the tripmine and maybe arc bolt.
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how many times have you been about to kill someone with a swarm grenade lol they are so bad.
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I use tripmines, but it's not that hard to get a kill with a swarm grenade. If you can hit some one once or twice as they're running for cover then toss a swarm you can get a kill pretty easy. I don't think the really fixed the ashes perk, they just set it up so the swarm grenades don't get the benefit from it.
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Edited by bilbo t baginzz: 6/15/2015 11:42:26 PMYou can out run swarm greandes so dam easy they travel like 10m if that before they explode
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Smh... Lol do you even understand what you read?
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sorry i edited for you... im currently at work earning more then you could imagine so theres no need to jump on my dick over a mall mistake. If someone is running a swarm wont catch them.
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Ok guy, if you use swarm grenades right it's not that hard to get kills with them, and if you're off making so much money why are you on here talking about this stuff with me? Why would you're job make you type some stupid crap? lol people.
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Because im in an office with a lot of people around me who are much higher up in the food change so to speak.. so im often a bit rushed if typing somethinf.
