go read my post in feedback "you owe us hunters etc" I know how the combination of perks work, unless you had the exotic piece that had that ashes to assets like perk you didn't get instant super, I've been running ashes and swarm since I had a piece on it before anyone even knew you could get that exotic and get instant super, I never owned that exotic, I never got instant super even using swarm grenades while wearing my ashes helmet, the only way to get instant super using a single ashes to asset piece is to get a multi-kill(2-4 in quick succession) where a grenade was involved I ran this setup in crucible probably hundreds of matches, even trials and Iron banner I never got an instant super simply because a grenade I chucked landed on a corpse or even got a kill could not generate enough super but now the perk only yields 7% per grenade per 10 seconds super while the melee version mostly found on warlock and titan armor still provides the 25% per kill/hit boost everytime their melee ability is up which is fast if they have 100% strength armor.