[quote]I prefer a sytem of enthusiasm with checks and balances over a system of complete apathy.[/quote] ...what? You're gonna have to clarify how this relates to tbagging. Trophies belong to the victors. Losers get nothing but experience. And tbagging in and of itself is a sign of gloating disrespect. Anytime one instigates the tbagging, it's being used the way it's designed to be used. People who lack character will always tbag. People with character sometimes respond in kind. Tbagging is always misused. The only time I think it's justified is "just bagging" but that, by definition, is preceded by someone bagging away.