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9/27/2015 6:10:54 PM
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[quote]I'm not debating its purpose or usefulness - you've come to the wrong place to fight that corner.
I'm saying its a gateway drug, the fact that it's not addictive doesn't automatically rule it out as one.[/quote]
So, oxygen is a gateway drug? Co2? Nitrogen? You breathe these every day, so does the crackhead down the street. He smokes crack because he breathes right? Cant prove me wrong, it must be a gateway drug. Lmao you were simply to dim to understand my explanation. I dont have the patience (even while baked) to teach people like you. You hold on to that bullshit thesis of yours buddy. Lmao.
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Haha. Jesus Christ, stop getting your knickers in a twist. Firstly, I replied before you edited your 'explanation' in. Secondly, my reasons for believing it's a gateway isn't because I believe it's addictive (it's not chemically addictive, only habitually) or because of its negative affects. I believe it's a gateway because of "[i]its current position in society[/i]" (this was in my reply to the OP to which you seem to have forgotten) in the sense that: 1. Weed is a safe entry in to breaking the barrier and stigma of illegal drugs 2. Dealers often have access to harder drugs and these are now easily accessible whereas they weren't previously. Not everyone who smokes weed will go on to harder drugs, yet most who do/did take harder drugs started on weed.
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Edited by kryple: 9/27/2015 6:48:06 PMPoint in fact for you buddy, most hard drug users got started in a hospital on opiates or started with opiates from a pharmacy. In the hospital or while on prescriptions it helps pain, what if you have lingering pain? They go back to opiates. Opiates become addictive in about a weeks worth of use for many. This is why you are not supposed to be on them for more than 5 days. Lots of doctors write up one month supplies or more... do the math. There are 10x more pill poppers in america than any other type of drug user. Want proof? Visit your local methadone clinic and ask.
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I'm not referring to "hard" drugs such as heroin, meth and crack. I'm saying it's a gateway to "harder" drugs such as coke, E, ketamine etc.
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Edited by kryple: 9/27/2015 7:03:58 PM[quote]I'm not referring to "hard" drugs such as heroin, meth and crack. I'm saying it's a gateway to "harder" drugs such as coke, E, ketamine etc.[/quote] *face palm* know what ketamine is? How about "E"? Jesus. Do you know anything dude? I just told you where those addictions start, it isnt with cannabis. All those hard drugs you mentioned came from a pharmacy and got to the street. Im done here. This is utterly frustrating, like teaching quantum physics to a 2 year old.
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You assumed I was referring to heroin, I cleared it up that I wasn't.
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Edited by kryple: 9/27/2015 6:39:47 PMAnything but anecdotes buddy? You also contradicted yourself by sayomg you dont think its addictive, only habitually addictive... which futher prooved my point that addiction is a mental disorder as habbits are dependent on an individuals mental state. Lol here is what cannabis actually does. Your description of how its a gateway drug is like sayimg poverty is a gateway drug. Truth is, a week mind is the gateway. Plain and simple. Stop looking for something out there to blame for peoples choices and let them own their own. Take away all drugs and people will huff paint, markers, gasoline, etc.... its a mental disorder you speak of. This plant is not the demon you are searching for.
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I didn't contradict myself. When I said "I don't think it's addictive" I was referring to it not being chemically addictive - obviously anything can be habitually addictive. What's the point you're trying to make here because I'm struggling to see how it relates to my original reply to OP.
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[quote] What's the point you're trying to make here because I'm struggling to see how it relates to my original reply to OP.[/quote] I am fully aware, and like i said (not trying to mean) i simply lack the ability to explain to you on a simpler level the point you are missing. Read it a few times... it might sink in. Try not to have such a full glass. I hate overflow messes.
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My issue is that the argument you're making to counter my point is completely irrelevant as my point isn't based on negative connotations I have with weed.
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Edited by kryple: 9/27/2015 7:01:25 PM[quote]My issue is that the argument you're making to counter my point is completely irrelevant as my point isn't based on negative connotations I have with weed.[/quote] Your problem is far greater than that and begins much earlier in development.
