Ok first here;
This is why weed is illegal;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=criminalization+of+marijuana&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0CBoQgQMwAGoVChMI29SLysPJyAIVxVU-Ch3MwgKV
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/etc/cron.html
http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/how-did-marijuana-become-illegal-first-place
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
That should cover [b][i][u]every angle[/u][/i][/b]
It has [b][i][u]nothing to do with smoking it[/u][/i][/b]
It was first made illegal in 1930s-1940s due to the fact a few monopolies and the [b][i][u]entire oil industry[/u][/i][/b] feared the plant's natural and freely available and easily obtainable resource uses;
Would threaten their products use and necessities and that marijuana would then replace their products uses in our industrialized world.
So they ran a smear campaign of propaganda and lobbied congress to get the plant criminalized and prohibited.
This worked so well that almost 85+ years later
[b][i][u]people still believe it is illegal due to it being an addictive controlled intoxicant[/u][/i][/b]
Yes it gets you high;
Guess what;
[b][i][u]unlike the reporting of the federal commission on the war on drugs; it is NOT ADDICTIVE and has nearly no negative side effects when consumed properly; you CANT even overdose on it! [/u][/i][/b]
Also the plant has a [b][i][u]multitude[/u][/i][/b] of functional [b][i][u]industrial USES[/u][/i][/b]
original post says [b][i][u]USE[/u][/i][/b] not [b][i][u]Smoking[/u][/i][/b]
Stop being sheep believing in lies told for 80 [b][i][u]DAMN YEARS[/u][/i][/b] by the monopolies, the oil industry, the commission started by president Ronald Regan of The War Against Drugs! [b][i][u]ITS ALL PROPAGANDA AND SPINN[/u][/i][/b]
FURTHERMORE;
[b][i][u]nearly every single Rx prescription drug [/u][/i][/b] is [b][i][u]addictive[/u][/i][/b] and has [b][i][u]severely bad side effects[/u][/i][/b] and [b][i][u]you can overdose and die from most of them[/u][/i][/b]
So please;
Stop thinking weed means 420 and Smoke or cancer medicine only
Fact is
[b][i][u]from your clothes to paper to the fuel AND lubricants in any piece of heavy machinery[/u][/i][/b]---> all of those can be made from or run on by a cheap as F*ck plant [b][i][u]ANY ONE[/u][/i][/b] could grow in their back yard!
(Also the declaration of independence and US constitution are written on [b][i][u]HEMP PAPER![/u][/i][/b])
Edit;
People who smoke weed and turn into lazy stupid dumb scumbags do that because of their lifestyle and life choices; its not due to weed; they would end up listening to junk music and being lazy scrubs even with out the weed;
Stop blaming weed for that pls
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I agree with all of this. I just think it's gross.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 10/20/2015 11:21:34 AMWhats gross? Weed or the flat out current fascism legislation around it?
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In my opinion, weed. I can't stand any type of smoking and I hate the smell of weed, but that's just me. But there's very little reason for it to be illegal if tobacco and alcohol are not, the unfair legislation is gross as well.
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Im not talking about just smoking it: Using marijuana as fuel or for anything is illegal atm And the only reason its that way; So companies in the 1930s could eliminate competition and make money selling harder to obtain and non renewable more expensive resource based products. Paper, clothing, fuel, machine lubrication, medicine Weed makes cheaper and [b][i][u]better[/u][/i][/b] versions of all of those; as well as cleaner(less polluting) and less negative side effects/waste than current industry. Also keeping it illegal funds a WAR a prison system an excuse to lock any one up and drug cartels and organized crime. So yea the legality is far more disgusting then the fact you can smoke an get high off if it and that it smells bad.
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[quote]Ok first here; This is why weed is illegal; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=criminalization+of+marijuana&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0CBoQgQMwAGoVChMI29SLysPJyAIVxVU-Ch3MwgKV http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/etc/cron.html http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/how-did-marijuana-become-illegal-first-place http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/ That should cover [b][i][u]every angle[/u][/i][/b] It has [b][i][u]nothing to do with smoking it[/u][/i][/b] It was first made illegal in 1930s-1940s due to the fact a few monopolies and the [b][i][u]entire oil industry[/u][/i][/b] feared the plant's natural and freely available and easily obtainable resource uses; Would threaten their products use and necessities and that marijuana would then replace their products uses in our industrialized world. So they ran a smear campaign of propaganda and lobbied congress to get the plant criminalized and prohibited. This worked so well that almost 85+ years later [b][i][u]people still believe it is illegal due to it being an addictive controlled intoxicant[/u][/i][/b] Yes it gets you high; Guess what; [b][i][u]unlike the reporting of the federal commission on the war on drugs; it is NOT ADDICTIVE and has nearly no negative side effects when consumed properly; you CANT even overdose on it! [/u][/i][/b] Also the plant has a [b][i][u]multitude[/u][/i][/b] of functional [b][i][u]industrial USES[/u][/i][/b] original post says [b][i][u]USE[/u][/i][/b] not [b][i][u]Smoking[/u][/i][/b] Stop being sheep believing in lies told for 80 [b][i][u]DAMN YEARS[/u][/i][/b] by the monopolies, the oil industry, the commission started by president Ronald Regan of The War Against Drugs! [b][i][u]ITS ALL PROPAGANDA AND SPINN[/u][/i][/b] FURTHERMORE; [b][i][u]nearly every single Rx prescription drug [/u][/i][/b] is [b][i][u]addictive[/u][/i][/b] and has [b][i][u]severely bad side effects[/u][/i][/b] and [b][i][u]you can overdose and die from most of them[/u][/i][/b] So please; Stop thinking weed means 420 and Smoke or cancer medicine only Fact is [b][i][u]from your clothes to paper to the fuel AND lubricants in any piece of heavy machinery[/u][/i][/b]---> all of those can be made from or run on by a cheap as F*ck plant [b][i][u]ANY ONE[/u][/i][/b] could grow in their back yard! (Also the declaration of independence and US constitution are written on [b][i][u]HEMP PAPER![/u][/i][/b]) Edit; People who smoke weed and turn into lazy stupid dumb scumbags do that because of their lifestyle and life choices; its not due to weed; they would end up listening to junk music and being lazy scrubs even with out the weed; Stop blaming weed for that pls[/quote]
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Edited by Hellas Wrath: 10/17/2015 7:26:04 PMI'm not against or for it. It just depends the way you consume it. :) in personal opinion I just think if it's not oxygen you shouldn't inhale it. But you have a major point :)
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Actually oxygen only consists of 24-12% of atmospheric air; consuming pure oxygen gets you ridiculously high and in amounts high enough can kill you.
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Bumping this up. About time someone pointed this out. Thank You Guardian
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Actually weed is addictive. More like caffeine than tobacco. You get addicted to the effects.
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Only psychologically. Cannabis contains no physically addictive compounds.
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Edited by The Arxfiend: 10/17/2015 6:20:08 PMExactly, like caffeine. If it wasn't addictive, why do so many argue for its legalization with a passion, and some idiocy.
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Edited by BKU Mako: 10/17/2015 6:26:50 PMBecause it's medically useful? Because they don't blindly follow the thing in front of them? Because they did their research on it and found disturbing truths? Sure, some people are fanatical about it. You know what else people are fanatical about? Religion. That's still legal, and makes MUCH less sense. And has infinitely more deaths to its name.
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I admit it has medical use. But I am against recreational usage because it effects bystanders against their will, and I have been in several accidents with people under the effects of only cannabis. Including a 75 degree turn into my rear, then threatening me with a knife. But religion has surprisingly few deaths compared to resource conflict. Should we make resources illegal too. I'm Athiest, but I have to say, Anti-thiest sure make it seem like an anti-god religion.
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As far as deaths go, there are literally ZERO attributed to cannabis (only) ingestion. Any deaths blamed on it are a result of medication interactions, or its current legal status. Were it readily available, there wouldn't be violence over it.
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Ingestion yes. Except for choking on the smoke, which is slightly thicker than normal tobacco smoke.
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Which also hasn't killed anyone. The worst that can happen with that is you'll pass out and your airway will reopen. Allergic reaction, maybe, but that's a LOT more rate than you'd think... cannabis is hypoallergenic.
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People have actually come very close to death by choking on the smoke. If someone wasn't there, it would have killed said people.
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That is 100% false, ask any doctor, EMT, or field medic. You CANNOT die from "choking" on a hit, as there is NOTHING obstructing the airway that wouldn't disappate shortly. As I stated, the WORST that can happen is that they'll pass out and wake up with a headache and sore throat. If the throat is overly-irritated by the smoke, it may, in fact, close off. However, it WILL reopen, and breathing WILL resume shortly after loss of consciousness. This occurs because, when the throat constricts, the majority of people panic. By panicking, they are, unknowingly, making the problem worse. The trick is to relax and practice diaphragm control (slow, controlled breaths from your stomach region. Even if it doesn't work initially, keep trying until your mind and body calm down a little. It WILL end. Let me reiterate: IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DIE FROM "CHOKING" ON A HIT. That isn't to say that some dumb shit out there won't seal off a gas mask, get it rolling, and have a hell of a bad time, but if they can get the mask off, they WILL, eventually, be just fine.
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The smoke sinks in the lungs. This means that there is a bunch of chemicals sitting in the bottom, not completely blocking, but slowing oxygen flow in those areas. Eventually, this buildup gets too great, and the body goes into a panic-breathing. This turns into coughing, and in some cases, CPR or other means of forced breathing are required.
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False. You obviously don't know how respiration works, and I'm not going to explain it to you. Go take a CPR class and ask the instructor about that. *Eagle Scout, EMT training, ex-lifeguard, ex-army*
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Eagle scout, and experience. I have had to deliver CPR to someone choking on a blunt once. It's fairly rare, but it happens. It's the same way people choke on carbon monoxide, but works much slower.
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Then you're probably using it incorrectly, and did more harm than good. NEVER do CPR on ANYONE without a physical obstruction, unless they've been unconcious for more than 30 seconds without breathing restoring naturally, or you witnessed them have a heart attack. Doing CPR on someone who was "choking" on a blunt is flat uncalled for. They'll cough like hell. They might throw up. They'll be fine. Never do that again. You could end up with a lawsuit for broken ribs, if you're doing it correctly, and a wrongful death suit, if you do it wrong.
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You say that like I don't know what to do. They flat out had no solid inhalation, just desperate attempts, even after passing out. Very weak coughing. I simply did a mild force 3 times before airways finished the job.
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Edited by BKU Mako: 10/17/2015 10:31:33 PMIf it cleared up that easily, then normal breathing would have resumed shortly. I'm flat telling you, you were in the wrong. Don't do CPR until their pulse starts to fade. You can stop their heart. Also, with that description, all he had happen is that he took too large of a hit and caused his diaphragm to spasm. He was fine.
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The charts that say marijuana is as addictive/more than heroin are [b][i][u]COMPLETELY FALSE[/u][/i][/b] heroin/opium addiction causes physical withdrawals that can result in death if addiction is severe enough; Weed is only psychologically addictive; Any damn thing you can think of is psychologically addictive on some level