Fine fair points; However jobs and gate were both ruthless business men; Thats what Waz lacked and yea jobs stole Waz' stuff then gates stole it from jobs Still they were stoners; They were two of the leading and richest business men in the digital revolution. 1/2 the upstarts and huge players in silicon valley were stoners Most of the atari developers and game makers were stoners So yea plenty amount to stuff; The ones that dont; They dont amount to anything because they are lazy mooches and dumb and even with out weed would never amount to anything