Also, but removing Trials... What do you think would happen? That everything would magically get better and improve because the competitive PvP is gone? Wrong. Iron Banner, once again, would take its place. These posts are so idiotic. As long as Bungie caters to every little scrub in PvP there will NEVER be an end to nerfs. Ever. Because there will always be a new "go to weapon" that has an advantage. As long as there is [b]that[/b] weapon the it'll never stop. Want the nerfing to stop? Well, the only way it will is if there is a standard loadouts of primaries (common) [or just one universal primary] that have identical kill times if you hit all precision shots. No more starting with legendary or exotics. They will be power weapons picked up on the map. There will be one support weapon (IB, Invective, Plan C, etc. but have limited ammo) on each side of the map of spawn and one power weapon (Truth, Railgun, Gjallarhorn).They will be set to appropriate timers. Other than hit box tweaks the damage and lethality of the weapons will stay the same. Why? Because they're power weapons. But the difference is, not every single person is running around with them or picking up heavy crates at the same time. THAT is balance. As long as everyone is running around with weapons that have ridiculous perks it will NEVER end. Period. But nobody wants what I said above. Because that's Halo. Or "COD" considering the loadouts. Absolutely nothing will change by getting rid of Trials. The players will simply go back to regular Crucible and Iron Banner.