[quote]antidisestablishmentarianism.[/quote] Great word. LOL. If Y2 and Y3 of Destiny were more like Y1, I'd probably be jumping to pre-order D2. But the fact of the matter is, from my standpoint, the quality of the product has been in steep decline since the HoW era. They've strayed way too far away from what made Y1 so fun in the first place, and that ultimately impacted my decision to bypass RoI and just wait to see if D2 is the gamechanger that RoI needed to be. Before I'll be moved to spend more money on a Bungie-game, I need to see what it is like first. And to be honest, Bungie can't really expect any less. They've burned and pissed off a lot of players who would otherwise have been very loyal hardcore fans. They've taken us for granted, and it often seems like they stop caring about you the moment you buy their product. People aren't going to take that kind of treatment and reward it with a pre-order. At least smart people won't.