Here's what you're not listening to. Due to the nerfing of primaries, it caused a usage spike with socials and abilities both. When you go back to year one when primaries were actually viable and could compete with the abilities and the abundance of specials, it was a problem. We had strong primaries, was able to have fun using abilities on the side, and could have the ability to use a special weapon at any given notice. You keep saying Destiny isn't competitive. Okay, so bungie basically put in private matches specifically for the tournament's and sweats community. There is a very active competitive side to Destiny, you just choose not to see it. You guys dwell too damn much on what kills you. I'm sure you'll be here to bitch about some primary in Destiny being too strong or something along those lines. It's great being able to play a game, use everything that it has to offer, and not throw a fit over getting out played. It's A+. Try it out.

Ive never been that way but winning in crucible was more a matter of luck in D1 there's no question. Losing a fire fight? Press L1 for a tripmine. Trapped in a corner but don't feel like dying? Fist of panic. It was fun but frustrating. It was anything but being outplayed. It was more like being 'outlucked' if you will

I'm sorry but if you think it just relied on luck you can have this mute. Of course you play it off as just being luck. No offence but you looks like you have a hard time regardless of what someone is using against you. Not only that you have very little time played in the crucible. Sounds like you just use that as a coping mechanism. Great convo.