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11/5/2018 11:44:35 PM
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You know, based on Bungie’s past history wrt these world’s first teams, and perceived (whether real or not) apathy towards performing any concrete punishment on clearly provable cheating, it is completely fair to point a very critical finger at Bungie on this issue.
Coil glitching got mad props from Bungie
Prime engram glitching got mad props from Bungie.
These teams were awarded in-game items and their gameplay was promoted by Bungie. Including all direct knowledge of their glitching.
Inactivity, on Bungie’s part, IS the one of strongest actions that can be made by any organization.
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Exactly. Well said.
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Edited by TheShadow-cali: 11/6/2018 12:00:32 AMIt's funny how DMG came out real quick making a post right before the raid was released, saying how there wasn't going to be any form of punishment for glitching the raid. Yeah, can't scare off our free advertisement now can we ;) Edit: If none of the streamers knew about the glitch and it was just a normal group that ran the glitch and won worlds first? I can almost guarantee things would have been handled quite differently.
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It’s my belief also. It IS a fine line though. What constitutes cheating, what constitutes mechanics manipulation, speed running public instances, boss burning to the point of completely ignoring the design of an instance? etc... These are great philosophical debates and I would hope/expect to see differences of opinions that are backed by completely legit logic. But, we’re not talking about that right now. We’re talking about unambiguously provable cheaters. Leviathan world first stream was unambiguous. “That’s my purple brick, I’m coil glitching”. imho, it’s debatable if that’s actually “cheating”. But, combine that with the lack of, or perception of lack of, ANY severe punishments handed out AND publicized by Bungie wrt proven cheaters, it paints a horrible overall view of the company. It’s simple, from my point of view. Bungie needs to come down HARD on cheaters and publicize it. Send a message to the entire community that cheating won’t be tolerated, in any way, shape or form. Do I think they have the nutsack to do this? No!
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[quote]imho, it’s debatable if that’s actually “cheating”. But, combine that with the lack of, or perception of lack of, ANY severe punishments handed out AND publicized by Bungie wrt proven cheaters, it paints a horrible overall view of the company.[/quote] This right here is all that needed to be said. I took it as the company saying one thing but their actions showing another. Being consistent is a huge issue with this company and has been since D1 released. Imho I don't think this company knows how to knowing the issues they have within the company with themselves. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
