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11/6/2018 7:46:19 PM
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What’s wrong with Witch hunting? Outside in the real world if someone is a “Suspect” but they flee the scene, a witch hunt begins.
Others should not have to suffer. Expose them, so we can 1. Avoid them, 2. Report them
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lol thats not at all how it works in the real worldl. any police officer would tell people not to pursue anyone thought to be a suspect. vigilantism is illegal. something definitely needs to be done about cheaters in comp, but it is bungie's problem to solve not the player base's... even if bungie is sitting on their hands instead of doing their due diligence in fixing the situation.
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witch hunts are bad in general as there would be nothing stopping me from saying you cheated and having people report and harrass you. Mob mentality does not take much to get rolling.
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You think people just go straight to harrassing people without evidence? People look for proof/evidence first. Like looking at recent game history.
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I have seen both case tbh. I have seen people who look for proof and those who hop on a bandwagon
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Of course that will always happen. But other companies have publicly shamed or “nerfed” cheaters. Bungie hasn’t done anything, and they are burying this post behind others.
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You're not very smart.
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How so oh so smart one?
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Say I called you a cheater. With no evidence in your favor, people assume the worst and immediately begin to accuse you of worse and worse things until you get banned from the forums for something you didn’t even do. Before you say “but people wouldn’t believe you with no evidence,” remember what community we’re talking about.
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Yeah, just look at what happened to Bill Cosby!
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If they cheat, there will be evidence. The boy who cried wolf never wins, I don't care how bad the community is. Your logic is saying that the boy who cried wolf....wins.
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You really think the community is like that? As soon as post saying “I got DDOSED in my last Crucible Match” the first thing people do is look at the opposing teams Game History. If it’s suspicious then they should be watched carefully or action should be taken immediately. I’ve seen this before, I’ve done it before. I’ve checked Game History of some people on this forum to see what happened. Innocent until proven guilty. You can’t argue a hypothetical situation to something that clearly happened, which is what OP above has detailed.
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It's because people would be falsely accused by idiots who think someone cheated even though they might not have and in turn being spammed by the internet because their name was posted online.
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Innocent until proven guilty, OP above gave proof through his Internet Company asking him about his DDOS. If there is proof, there should be punishment and shame.
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No offence to the OP, but if ISP has the evidence of a single ip address, why are they not pursuing legal action as it was an attack on their network? OP should not be worried about being on their bad side, they should be going after the attacker.
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Maybe they have, but that won’t stop the same people from doing it. So they should still be banned.
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Yea that makes sense. I was speaking more in general. Also though what's the point of shaming someone's gamertag when they are going to get banned anyway and make a new account? I feel like the cheaters want their names to be noticed and publicised.
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It’s the same with false -blam!- accusations, yes there are times where that happens and the victim is not punished for lying. However, this is different from Video Games. Yeah yeah they’re just Video Games, but when companies like Bungie have strict rules against cheaters, action should be taken.
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I agree, but from my personal experience I have not run into many cheaters at all in my lifetime of playing online and I play a -blam!- ton. So either they are doing a good job eliminating cheating or there just isn't as many to cause an escalated issue on their behalf. Also i imagine player shaming is not good PR for a company which I assume it mainly comes down to in the end. I probably got off topic there but I'm sure you get my point lol
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Im sorry im late what proof was given from his isp? Because all i see is him saying his isp contacted him
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They literally contact him saying the DDOS happened
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Yes yes i get thats what hes saying however thats not proof? Thats him telling us something that we would have to believe because he cant show evidence of the call or what the call said you know? The only way we could tell is knowing the names and checking their history to see how frequently it happens and thats not possible cause bungie took the names out. So its still innocent no?
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We are not all Philadelphia lawyers here. If the gist of the story is true i tend to believe all of it. If that person is lying ... well its his problem not mine.
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Terrible way of thinking and makes you sound like an absolute idiot lmfao. And im still looking for tbat proof of it being true
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Not really, the proof was there but Bungie hid it.
