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[quote]Tl;dr[/quote] Then dont bother replying right? [quote]Your argument is for a bad experience using matchmaking.[/quote] My argument is the most likely outcome. As anyone that's played even a few strikes and seen the kind of randoms that can barely do that content would understand. [quote]That’s not an argument for something that’s optional.[/quote] 1. Its a waste of dev time and resources that should be implemented elsewhere - somewhere that actually would be productive and lead to people finishing content. 2. Raid mm would lead to nothing but complaints about the difficulty of the content which would lead to dumber down mechanics and raids that ruin my and other raiders fun. It's hilarious you think 6 randoms would ever complete a raid when literally guided games having a clan helping 1 or 2 players rarely ever complete them. If you cannot take the 5 minutes to find a group you should not be raiding which can take hours - especially with an uncoordinated group or randoms which would lead to it taking even longer.
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  • By the way, there’s a lot of us who are quite content, depending on the group, to spend hours in a raid. Made good friends that way. Until they all left. Albeit, I won’t spend 15 minutes in a raid of squeakers.

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  • Edited by Haunter: 5/28/2019 11:00:42 PM
    Then why not take the 10 minutes to find a group to your specifications and have fun while enjoying a much higher success rate and also likely finishing faster leaving you time for other things? Why want to doom yourself to search for 5 others, pray they speak english, pray they know what to do, pray they dont go afk, pray they stay and dont leave, pray they are willing to move to other roles as required, pray they have optimal gear, etc

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  • That’s why with optional matchmaking, the onus for enjoyment is on me. I have to accept my decisions, whether this way or via lfg. It’s all a crapshoot really. Lfg is only a step up from matchmaking.

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  • 1. Not st the cost of our shared devs time and resources, they could focusing on other stuff 2. Theres a world of difference between lfg and mm. MM is completely random, you can get first timers, the worlds worst players and underleveled players vs lfg where they set requirements you must meet and ones you'll get booted over

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  • I’ve completed raids using lfg. That’s 6 randoms is it not? Could be a shit outcome or it could be successful. No different than matchmaking. You may have a better chance with lfg, but then with optional matchmaking, that’s MY choice to make. God forbid developers do that for me.

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  • [quote]That’s 6 randoms is it not?[/quote] Not at all. A team where a member controls who is accepted and who gets the boot for the various reasons I listed is not at all like mm where you're stuck with whatever group you get. Also if we acknowledge even with lfg half the time you get a group that cannot finish the raid how would a full group of 6 randoms work? It would lead to wasted dev time and resources which are things I pay for as much as you and would rather see go towards something actually productive and would likely lead to raids having thier mechanics nerfed to accommodate the low skill ceiling random players require to complete activities.

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  • Yeah, well, I like playing the game. I don’t care about completions or grinding for everything in the game. That’s why I have like several alt accounts. So my first instinct isn’t taking yet more time to run through raid report or some other website to check completions. I play with anyone and everyone. There’s a lot of people like me, a lot of people like you. Why should only one side be satisfied, when all can be? It seems you’re fine using my money to make you happy while I get shafted!

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  • [quote]Yeah, well, I like playing the game. I don’t care about completions or grinding for everything in the game. That’s why I have like several alt accounts. So my first instinct isn’t taking yet more time to run through raid report or some other website to check completions.[/quote] So you dont care about finishing a raid, you just want to shoot stuff. Good news then, theres plenty of activites you can enjoy where you can shoot ads in pve. If you dont care about actually completing the raid then I 100% understand why youd want raid mm - and you also prove my point why it should never happen. Imagine matchmaking for a raid and having teammates not interested in completing it.... [quote]I play with anyone and everyone. There’s a lot of people like me, a lot of people like you. Why should only one side be satisfied, when all can be? It seems you’re fine using my money to make you happy while I get shafted![/quote] You get shafted? Hardly. You have the same options as every raider in this game. Add some people or lfg a group. I dont expect bungie to hand me a raid team, raid mm would be a waste of resources and would likely dumb down encouters to boost mm completion numbers - something that every raider will dislike

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