The faiths god was already defeated, that is known and TRUE. It was a call to the shape of consciousness, this formless thought, it was made manifest...it too has an end, while not seen entirely...consciousness will always exist in the past present future, until it no longer remembers itself. It's pointers, you were making it obvious the memory and pointers were random, that even the pointers would lose their address...memory loss, erasure...I'll keep looking. **Caydes non linear loop, they used him at points to adjust the line using his nature (not vanguard, the vex) -another look at time shattering, but from our pov, and...our line wasn't affected; unless built around, the actual process of Atheons meaning, the tool that fixes the timeline ***Go back over Clovis memory ****They could look into the future, prediction engines and which is right...it was the one that accepted and captured the past. It holds the basis for all reality.