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4/20/2024 8:52:04 PM
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Deterministic Recoil was a cool experiment, but please delete it.

The entire point of the Recoil Direction stat was to offer players a visual of the weapons recoil and now we're back to hidden stats and shooting at walls from a distance to get an idea of the weapon recoil. There's also the issue of stability based stats becoming convoluted now that you now need to run past 3 different stats to get a handle on how your recoil will be. I thought this kind of thing is why Zoom was decoupled from Range just 8 months ago. Just remove Deterministic Recoil and discontinue the stat. Recoil Direction was already perfect

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    Fr. Why are we wasting dev time on these unnecessary and poorly implemented systems? Who asked for deterministic recoil? We already have barrels and mods to adjust the recoil direction to our liking.

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  • Edited by ForeverLaxx: 4/21/2024 1:17:27 PM
    It's cool when that forced deviation actively makes the weapon perform worse the more "vertical" the Recoil Stat becomes. I've had weapons that were harder to keep on target at 100 Recoil than they are at 50 Recoil and that should never be how it functions. Deterministic Recoil, a change meant to make a gun perform "consistently" regardless of the Recoil Stat (I assume to benefit newer players?), is a bad experiment that needs to be retired. At this point, I think it only exists so Bungie can pretend players want different barrel perks instead of defaulting to the "standard 3" of Extended Barrel/Smallbore/Arrowhead. Most of the time, that's the real reason Bungie makes a fundamental (and mostly hidden) change to how a weapon functions under the hood, anyway.

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  • I really hate that illegal products (sold everywhere) can be programmed to copy a recoil pattern exactly. Bungie bans the name of the device in the forum, but NOT the device in game, THEN comes up with a recoil pattern that can be "scripted" instead of random. Rust had this issue years ago, a set recoil pattern led to massive scripting issues, to the point they had to change it to a random recoil pattern. Why is Bungie working backwards vs cheaters? Could they maybe spend those resources somewhere else? Do they have a grand plan to foil cheaters with these changes?

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    • I thought it was implemented to catch ppl running anti-recoil scripts.

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      • This recoil change furthered handicapped console players with pc friends

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      • Yes! Please!

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      • yeah. not a fan tbh.

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      • Yeah it's really stupid and a waste of resources.

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      • You know why I like it? It helps detect people using macros, scripts, and various tools to mitigate their recoil. I like it because it reminds me of real marksmanship, now just let us switch shoulders. I like it because it gives identity to the weapon beyond its perk set and origin trait. That's why I like it. Why I don't like it. The information is obtuse. Every weapon that has it, should be able to be tuned, but they aren't. Example Recluse that has a right yaw at 100 base recoil. So if those 2 things are remedied, I'm for it. Surface the yaw stat, make sure the recoil stat on most weapons allows for them to be tuned.

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        • What is this, CSGO?

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