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Edited by The Legend Himself: GONZO:
4/14/2024 8:19:34 PM
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Master of Arms (Revert Change)
As it is, it’s just a worst Frenzy. Please change it back to a 20% damage buff. That is all.
Oh, and Onslaught is great and the weapons are awesome! I also love the 10 Wave option, for those times when you just want a quick run. Well done overall!
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leave it, its balanced
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You want sunseting again
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3 RepliesShame such an awesome weapon is now garbage tier. Seriously, compare it to every other damage perk that can roll on primary weapons and 15% is weak, no 2 ways about it. Every other perk offers (at maxed stacks where applicable) 20-25-30-33-40-50% damage. Every single one requires 1-5 kills, but the ones that require more than 3 usually have a way to skip some of the rest, like Kinetic Tremors or Firefly on a weapon with One For All. 15% is basically nothing, especially compared to alternative weapons like Multimach or Ros Arago if RNG blessed you with a good roll for that (still hoping for a Subsistence/ Onslaught roll to pair with Doomfang). The closest I can get to why they nerfed a pinnacle perk like this again would be because we couldn't apply as many buffs or debuffs back then or because of new exotics.
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6 RepliesI'll probably start doing 10 Wave version since I have a habit (and seen others) leave usually after 30 waves. Maybe it should streamline the progression so it doesn't feel like it drags on because I'm burnted out by then. Also would be interesting to have Vault access after boss battles. Maybe that'll freshen up the run if we have a 'locker room' period to mix things up.
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3 RepliesIf it was a 20% buff then desperate measures would be useless. Just get a desperate measures roll.
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Edited by Kiro - 13: 4/15/2024 8:18:03 PMPart of it is the fact it has only 13 zoom, smgs on the whole have 14. For the life of me I can see why you would use recluse beyond its ease of obtainment. Unforgiven, Funnel Web, and the auto Ros Argo just get the job done better.
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Edited by mikeyrox1234: 4/15/2024 7:10:08 PMEh… even if they did revert the change, SMGs in general don’t feel good for me anymore. This is coming from someone that used Peacekeepers and SMGs since whenever the Reckoning was a thing.
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7 RepliesEdited by CoolGirlKam: 4/15/2024 1:18:19 AM+1 I dont mind 8f they revert it back to 20%. Its not gonna break the game, as it is funnelweb is better and there no point to get the recluse unless its for nostalgia. I wouldve liked them to have brought it back as a strand weapon as well. Onslaught after doing a 50 wave run, definitely wore out its welcome, so i stick to the 10 wave run. Im not saying it sucks or should be removed bc theres plenty of guardians who dig it. Just not for me personally. On an update scale its a 7/10 they lost points for time gating the weapons and partial progression.
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Or like 17.5% if 20 was too much
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15 RepliesIt never had 20% damage buff. 15% is nothing, simply nothing. Obviously you can't recall the outstanding damage potential good 'ol Recluse had in its high days. https://youtu.be/n89tlX4B3bA?si=jNnTedtzwBcCwAOg
